I kind of hesitated about
posting this particular post, but in light of Indiana passing that ridiculous
anti-gay law I am posting it. It goes to the theme of people
being hateful, unintelligent and plain stupid and pushing their beliefs onto
others and not respecting anyone who believes differently than they do.
I’ve written about this topic
before … about people posting their religious and political views on
Facebook. I don’t do it as often as I used to because it incites war, but
sometimes I can’t help myself and I’ll post Catholic stuff to piss off the Born
Again Christians (because they hate us you know) and I’ll post
super-duper left wing stuff to piss off the super duper right wing wing-nuts.
So I have a friend on Facebook who
is like me; into all types of spiritual thought. I am not a scholar or an
expert by any means, but I can back up what I believe for those who care to listen. I AM A SEEKER and I have no issue with your beliefs until you
start messing with mine. Then I get pissed off.
So – a friend of a friend on
Facebook has engaged in a war with me over Christian thought, doctrine,
principles, rules, regulations, scripture, etc., et al., blah blah blah for
which he has NO KNOWLEDGE.
This war of words stems from the
fact that our mutual friend is in London visiting his son and this
individual, let’s call him Jesus, Jr., no matter what comment you post on Facebook, will ALWAYS have a negative comment about gays and how everyone is lost and evil because they're not Christian. Well, he has decided to enlighten me and everyone
else on Facebook about England’s religious history. Here is a sampling of
our convos …
Jesus Junior: you are now in
a non christian country this is the country the christians left because of
religious freedom and why the christians abandoned anarchy. and put right to
bear arms yes churchill met with pres rosevelt on a distroyer begging the
christian army to help them against the nazi s
Me:
Please. This is the country that left the Catholic church in 1534 to
form the Church of England when King Henry VIII wanted to divorce his wife
Catherine of Aragon to marry Anne Boelyn. England is NOT a non-Christian
country. Do your homework please.
To this he responds by giving me
a test.
Jesus
Junior: does England have the right to bear arms? and a king and
queen? yes or no ... (I’m
surprised he didn’t print a little box for me to check)
Me: England
has a Queen. But she is merely a figurehead. Parliament runs the
government. Citizens in England do not carry weapons, nor do the
police. what does that have to do with anything? Your arguments are
completely bogus. Do your homework so you can debate with some
intelligence. And FYI, there was no "Christian army" there was
just the army.
Jesus
Junior: wait this is piere morgan right? I thought we ran you out
of the country.
(Clearly
an insult to deflect from the fact that I answered his ridiculous
question).
Me: Do you mean Piers Morgan? Learn how to spell. FYI - I
answered your questions dude.
Jesus Junior: Then stay out of our Christian nation. (Typical
response of someone who does not know what he is talking about).
Me: You seriously need help. You're paranoid. And I AM A
CHRISTIAN. And P.S. America is the home of the FREE ... to be a Christian
or an aethiest, or a Buddhist or a Muslim. Deal with it.
OK. You're all probably
wondering why I even wasted my time with this individual, especially considering that
he cannot spell or express himself. I just got tired of reading his
ridiculous comments day in and day out and I couldn't help myself.
The other reason was an
example ... take this little exchange and magnify it by a billion and you
have the chaos you see in the world. Most people argue not with the
intention of learning and understanding another person’s point of view, but
with their next argument in their head. I have found that when I really
try to understand where someone is coming from two things happen: (a) I
get it; and (b) I learn something. Instead of arguing with the sole
intent of being “right” why not argue with the intent to “understand” and
“learn”? It doesn’t mean you have to change your thought or convert your
religion, just TRY to understand where someone is coming from.
I can appreciate that to go
outside of what is comfortable naturally instills a certain amount of fear in
people. It is scary to question long held beliefs and to step outside of
boundaries that we’ve been told we should never step outside of because to do
so is akin to consorting with Satan. But questioning is good. Even
when it makes us uncomfortable … we should actually sit with that feeling and
ask ourselves WHY we are feeling uncomfortable. For only by questioning
can we really grow as human beings and as spiritual beings.
And the other reason is ... I can't
stand people who attack MY faith. I am a Catholic and I can't tell you how
many times I've had fundamentalists attack me. They ridicule our practice of saying a rosary (which is merely a meditation on the life of Christ from his conception to his resurrection), they believe we pray to the Virgin Mary, we call the priest
“Father” blah blah blah. Here is my argument to that ... WHAT
DO YOU CARE?! What is it to you that I’m Catholic? I have never attacked anyone for their religious beliefs nor gotten into a pissing contest about who's right or who's wrong. I have attended mass my whole life and in all these many years I have never ever heard a Catholic priest say anything negative about fundamentalists. Fundamentalists on the other hand, are very vocal about their negative feelings about Catholics and their false church. Faith is faith and belief is belief and it's no one business and no one's right to attack or condemn or condescend to anyone who does not believe as you do. Instead of
worrying about all us “heretical Catholics” you should worry
about yourselves and try to be more LIKE JESUS. L-O-V-I-N-G. NEWSFLASH! Christ already died for my sins ... I
don’t need YOU to save me. So please … stay in your lane and I’ll stay in
mine. DAMMIT.
.... and I say this only with love.
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I am one of those that, most of the time, especially involving religion, choose not to engage.
ReplyDeleteBut man, sometimes you just gotta ... and you did, and it was fabulous!
THANKS Bob!!! I was actually very nervous about posting it, but I've had some ugly encounters the last few days and well, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do!
ReplyDeleteEvie says --That low information right wing person is uneducated and I have encountered others like him. Keep sticking to your views and keep being a seeker.
ReplyDeleteYou are very courageous to post this. I tip my hat to you. My way of dealing with people like this is to block them, but before doing so, I tell them that I do not wish to debate these things because they are not critical thinkers, and DO NOT CARE ABOUT WHAT OTHERS HAVE TO SAY, unless others agree with them. I cannot help but be sickened by them; they are impossible to penetrate or educate.
ReplyDeleteThank you Enid. I do not mean to minimize the faith of anyone, even fundamentalist Christians. I just got tired of ignoring the Catholic bashing. God bless EVERYONE, religious or not. Life is hard enough without some idiot jumping down your throat.
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